I recall a year or two ago Martin Ellis lauding the value of a HANS device after he made a hurried acquaintance with an Oulton Park tyre barrier. Sadly I am
in a similar position but still wanted to echo Martin's sentiments. My impact was well in excess of 100mph - the result of complete brake loss on entry to
the hairpin - and after the initial impact the car took to the air to test out the outer lorry tyre wall too. I was a touch groggy that evening but was
fearful of how my neck and back would be the following day. In fact I was fine.
The circuit medical staff were hugely enthusiastic about HANS and as a real beneficiary I feel compelled to encourage fellow SRCC racers in their use. When you
first wear one it feels very ungainly and the thing is a touch awkward around the paddock but it is soon forgotten on the track, where it counts. They still
appear pricey but frankly are cheap in the aftermath of a big one.
Mike
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Posts: 11 (05/19/09 22:39:25) |
More importantly hows the car.....
A serious question, I understand that the seat belt mounting points on my T492 are not positioned in such a way that I can fit belts that work with a HANS
device, is this correct? and does anyone know whether it would be an easy job to revise the seat belt mountings to enable the use of HANS.
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Posts: 37 (05/20/09 03:05:08) |
Kevin
If you come and see us at Donnington I can show you a reasonably simple addition to move the seat belt mounting points. Paul |
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Posts: 126 (05/20/09 03:54:34) |
If any pics can be put up about that I would be very happy.
Just ordering my non-hans belt for my 492 and the stock Lola shoulder mounts are all wrong for compliance to the blue Book. They are miles lower than the top of the seat. how do you all pass scrutes at the circuits? Graham. |
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Posts: 38 (05/20/09 05:47:04) |
Graham
The original seat belt mounting made life very uncomfortable, the belts actually tried to compress the driver into the floor rather than retain him in a backward position. In brief, all we did was to weld a new tube in between the diagonal roll hoop brace and the outer tube on the RHS of the roll hoop, obviously with inserts welded in for the strap bolts etc and at a height which meant the seat belt was horizontal from the mounts to the drivers shoulders. Hope this helps Paul |
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Posts: 9 (05/20/09 07:22:22) |
I have to declare an interest here as MSAR-Safety is my company and we are UK agents for Schroth and therefore HANS.
If anyone wants help or advice then please contact us via www.msar-safety.com or on 0208 655 7877 We are offering some product sponsorship to S2000 so I assume it is OK to post here .. Colin please confirm?? Thanks Malcolm |
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Posts: 160 (05/20/09 07:55:48) |
Mike Fry wrote:Just read this!!! Have you had another big shunt Mike? After the Brands Hatch episode last year, your luck was due to change (for the better). Hope I've completely misunderstood the whole thread. Rollo. 
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Posts: 921 (05/20/09 08:38:19) |
Malcolm, yes feel free to post any info on your safety devices you sell.
Chris, yes it was a big one, unfortunately Mike wont be out this year unless a lot of Royale parts can be found. Perhaps if anyone has such things they could let Mike know as any help would be gratefully received. |
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Posts: 127 (05/20/09 08:46:50) |
Paul:
Fully understand about the mounts/seat/shoulders and the geometry is totally against the Blue book and can cause injury in a Big One if the flesh is above the seat rear edge. I was thinking of a bolt-on frame that raises the original mounts about 60mm, ie level with the seat rear edge. Don't fancy welding to the cage (due to my 'skills'). Yet another job on the list. ps: That Royale is not the one just bought off Mike in Epsom is it? Sorry, that car was a Chevron
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Posts: 101 (05/20/09 10:54:14) |
I wouldn't be without my HANS, about the same price as a set of tyres and could save your life- a no brainer. Also its now run by an English bloke called
Mark Styles who lives in Atlanta and has just done me a huge favour sourcing a bit for my Dodge motorhome and posting it to me.
You need to mount the belts slightly closer together at the top if possible to prevent them slipping off the HANS. We did a similar thing to Paul but just made up a new bar with inserts in the right place and bolted it to the car using the original belt mounting points. Come and have a look at Donimgton. Make sure to buy a helmet with HANS posts already fitted and an FIA little silver sticker on the back. A mate of mine and I are running a BMW in the VLN at the 'ring but he doesn't have HANS posts and the Germans insist on their use. Arai have quoted about £200 to send the helmet to Holland to have the posts fitted and to apply the sticker. Our third driver is in the same position with his Bell which has to go to Belgium. I don't know the score here in club events but I think anything FIA will demand the sticker. Lucky I've got three helmets so we can spend our money on beer. Jonathan |
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Posts: 80 (05/21/09 04:41:08) |
Just out of interest.......
I have been using a LEATT brace when racing the old three-wheel Morgan. It is not belt-dependant and operates completely independently of the helmet. Originally designed for KTM riders after a couple of Paris Dakar neck nasties, it suits well in the un-belted and more upright sitting position in the trike cockpit, or indeed on a race bike. An advantage is that it allows full lateral head rotation, which is important to us. I have not thought to try it in an S2 yet and although there is a "car" version I don't know if it is appropriate to us. Like a previous correspondent, I do know that if I had tipped the trike over or been thrown out, I would have been jolly glad of it. Barry D, |
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Posts: 6 (06/03/09 01:18:31) |
I had new posts fitted to my arai helmet at the start of last year after it was painted. I sent the helmet to GPR and they fitted the post's (Actually sent
it to arai who fitted them) and put the FIA sticker on. The cost was simply the cost of the posts, which as the time were something like £80. The process took
just over a week from GPR receiving the helmet, till it being returned.
At Spa last year I had a driver that didnt had the FIA sticker for his has posts on his helmet. the scruts wouldnt pass it, a van from STAND 21 was there that would unbolt the posts bolt new ones on an put the sticker on at a cost of over 300 euro's.... dont get left High and Dry! Matt Dobson 4D Engineering |
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